DATE: Wednesday, October 8, 1997 Place: Around the Story Tree ---- Recall start ---- Robert enters from the forest. Robert raises an eyebrow as he re-enters the clearing. "You're the only one who bothered to show up?" JJ Malone leans against the tree smoking, and gives a shrug, checking her watch quickly. "Appears so," she says in her husky voice. Robert rolls his eyes and shakes his head. "That's why I headed out for a bit, to take care of a few things and see if anyone else would bother to show. I suppose it was hoping too much," he adds, in an only slightly bitter tone. Shadow-of-Blood enters from the forest. Shadow-of-Blood pads into the clearing, finds a clear spot in the grass, turns around a few times, and lies in the grass, awaiting the arrival of any of the others. JJ Malone gives Robert an assessing sidelong glance, but says nothing in return, seeming to be more comfortable hanging in the background. The Red Talon gets a brief once over, then the cropped-haired blonde returns to smoking her cigarette and looking totally out of place in the woods. Anne enters from the forest. Shadow-of-Blood sneezes once, then looks over at the Glass Walker's cigarette. I do not foul your Scar, even if I could. Do not foul the woods. "Bite me, kid," she tells the lupus without even looking over at him, her tone bored and distracted without the least bit of anger. She does, however, give the Warder a glance, one easy to interpret to the skilled. Shadow-of-Blood gets to his feet and pads over towards the Glass Walker, looking for all the world as if he intends to take her up on her suggestion. Anne slips into the compound quietly, limping a little. Robert looks at the lupus and says authoritatively, "Not now. Small compromise." with a glance at JJ, he continues, "That's the last one, and it'll be put out completely when she's done, and carried away to be disposed of out of the woods. As I'm sure," he adds, "that she does already." He pauses for a moment, then offers, "Or you can take it up with me." Shadow-of-Blood growls low in his throat, first at JJ, then at the Warder, but reluctantly pads back over to where he was lying before, hackles still ominously raised. Alexander enters from the forest. JJ Malone's hand twitches reflexively to the lapel of her coat as Shadow-of-Blood's intentions become clear, stayed by Robert's intercedence. Distraction and boredom is gone, replaced with the subtle glow of many an ahroun's banked Rage, directed at the young wolf. She jerks her gaze away, and gives Robert a shallow nod, then a snort. "I'm not stupid," she says low, agreeing with him, but a touch sullenly anyway. She continues to give Shadow-of-Blood disconcerting, mirror-shaded glares from her place half-hidden against the tree. Joseph enters from the forest. Quiet enters from the forest. Brian enters from the forest. Robert only spares the briefest of glances at his watch as the quartet of other Elders comes into the clearing, then asks the collective group, "Well, we have a majority now. Anyone know whether any of the others can or can't make it?" JJ Malone, half in shadows leaning against a tree on the fringes of the gathering, a dwindling stub of a cigarette betraying her position, makes no answer. Anne shakes her head slightly; her voice is low, as she eases herself down to a seat. "No idea." Alexander shakes his head silently. Joseph shakes his head as well. Brian shakes his head in answer as he warms his fingers with his breath. Quiet has not seen any other Elders, this evening. She has no messages. Robert nods slowly, accepting the lack of answers as enough of an answer itself. "Very well. We'll continue, though I dislike not having the input of nearly half of the elders, and thus half the tribes, of the sept." With a smile, he glances up at the moon, noting, "Right night for discussion, at least." As he looks around at the gathered group, he states, "At the last moot, I mentioned that the possibility of renaming the caern, due to its death and rather ... dramatic rebirth, and asked everyone to speak with their tribes about the possibility and new names. Anne, have you done so?" Anne lifts her hands, palm upwards. "We agree that the caern should be renamed. It is no longer the Wheel of the Wendigo, or even the Wheel that it was before." Joseph's gaze shifts toward the Fury elder, but the Wendigo says nothing. Robert nods slowly, accepting the answer and the reasons without question for now. "Any suggestions?" he prompts the Fury elder. Anne shrugs slightly. "Nothing worth repeating. Some wit - I forget who - suggested 'Hidden Valley Ranch', for instance." Robert coughs politely, then turns to Quiet. "Moon-Laughs-Quiet? I think you have spoken with some...." Quiet has. One tribemate suggested the name of Gaia's Breath, to honor our new totem. And the other name may have been given in play, but it is also true that we are well-hidden. Robert smiles. "I would prefer just 'Hidden Valley' before the 'Ranch' part, speaking just for myself, and even that may be, in a way, giving away more of the location of the caern than we would wish. Brian?" "The Fianna," Brian says, "don't really have much of a preference whether the caern's renamed or not. They feel it's appropriate, certainly, but not necessary." He pauses a moment before adding, with a slightly sheepish smile, "We had a lot of suggestions, but none that I'd feel very good about repeating in mixed company." Robert chuckles, then turns to look at JJ. "And from the Glass Walkers?" JJ Malone snorts, bemused suddenly. "You're looking at them," she says with flippant sarcasm, then, "Only idea I came up with is 'Misty Vale'. Kind of a play on words. Probably beyond some of our more feral kin, though." Shadow-of-Blood's hackles raise slightly again, but he doesn't quite growl at the Walker this time. Robert nods speculatively at the suggestion, turns his attention to the Talon. "And speaking of some of our more feral kin...." Shadow-of-Blood and the Talons believe that the caern is not the same caern, in smell, in sight, in feel. The name should change. It matters little what the new name is. Robert nods again, then turns to Alexander. "Opinions? Suggestions?" he asks. Alexander shakes his head slowly. "I asked, but Cutter was silent as usual. And Dillan wasn't-- as usual. I don't really want to offer up the suggestions made by the same guy who named his pack Totem 'Snoop Foggy Fogg.'" JJ Malone says with sardonic humor, "Oh, why not. It's part of his charm." Robert smiles, and gently notes, "He does have a connection with Fog already. However, I would agree that names of that sort would be ... problematic to the more conservative elements among the Garou, but here and abroad." He finishes by turning to face Joseph, asking, "And the Gatekeeper?" Anne shoots Alexander a quick grin. Shadow-of-Blood would evidently, from his uncomfortable expression, be considered in that 'conservative' grouping. Joseph lifts his chin at the use of the title, but takes a moment before answering. "The only suggestions I, or my fellow Wendigo came up with had a certain..Wendigo flavor to them. I think the Sept, overall, would maybe like to get away from that." He pauses to look around. "Not that I think any of you would mind such names, but this, I think, is a time to look more to the future than the past." Quiet flicks her ears wryly. She seems to find more amusement in the recounting than might be obviously apparent. Brian bows his head slightly; his brow furrows as he mutters quietly to himself, and then remarks, "I suppose you all would shoot me if I suggested something in Irish, wouldn't you." Robert favors Brian with a wry smile. "Would you be offended if I suggested something in French or German?" Anne makes a gun shape with her fingers and points at Brian. "Pow! Actually, no, but it wouldn't have much meaning to the rest of us. I could suggest a few Greek names." JJ Malone snorts again, bemused, but seems content and maybe even happy to remain where she is, out of the middle of things. Quiet says that it should be a name that could be said in all forms. Brian chuckles sheepishly, and runs a hand back through his hair. "The only suggestion so far that really appeals to me is Gaia's Breath, but I worry that it's much too short a step between that and bad breath jokes for some of our more irreverent cousins." Anne remarks, "I like Misty Vale, or something like, oh, I don't know. My brain's shut down. Gaia's Breath, hrm, well, if we were Wind instead of Fog, maybe." Quiet says dryly, It will not be much worse than the tribemate of mine that suggested the ~Wheel Recycled.~ Robert nods at Quiet with a smile. "I'd heard that one and 'Wheel Reforged'." Brian appears to mull things over for a moment, then suggests, "Mist's Promise." Anne slants a look at Brian. "Or Wyld's Promise," she mutters, with a glance at Quiet. Robert looks back and forth at Brian and Anne. "Wyldmist, combining the two." Quiet looks discomfited. She then says slowly, if we are to speak of the promises by the Wyld, I like Hidden Walk. If any of us had truly seen the path and dangers, we would not have walked it. I think. "I approve of that." Brian throws his support behind the idea hastily. "It's also pretty descriptive of the place itself." Anne appends, "Without being so descriptive as to be, well, revealing, which was one of the objections to the Valley or even possibly Vale ideas." Robert nods. "It works in several ways, literally and metaphorically." JJ Malone mutters something under her breath, and shifts her weight against the tree, subsiding back into the protective blanket of the fringe. Anne rakes a hand through her hair, stopping in a tangle and fretting over it. "Hidden Walk or Hidden Path?" Shadow-of-Blood tilts his head to one side, considering the feel of such a name. Acceptable. Brian says, after a moment, "I prefer the latter, myself." Quiet says it depends on whether you wish to talk about the caern's recent history, and perhaps the way our totem will make himself known. Or if you wish to talk more of its physical nature. A walk is the wolves, a path is the place. Anne's expression alters from interested to confused as Quiet speaks. "Er, yeah. Right. Huh?" Shadow-of-Blood prefers Hidden Walk. The walk is ongoing. The path is not. Quiet flicks her tail, then says only that such speaking does not come across well in this form. Just, the walking is what wolves do. The path is the place they walk. JJ Malone speaks up again from her 'hiding' place. "Prefer Hidden Walk, myself," she says, then lapses into silence again. Hope-Star enters from the forest. Robert considers the differences, then nods. "'Hidden Walk' fits nicely." As another wolf comes into the clearing, he glances at her, then smiles slightly. "Sepdet. Good evening. Representing your elder this evening?" Hope-Star slinks in a bit skittishly, discreet entrance rather ruined by a loud popping of twigs. She dips her eyes in quiet affirmation. Yes, unfortunately. Hope-Star contorts and blurs as she is transformed. Hope-Star shifts into Glabro form. Robert explains to the Strider, "We have been discussing renaming the caern, considering the changes through which it has gone. Have you any opinions or suggestions to convey?" Sepdet props a hand on Joseph's shoulder and settles herself. She shrugs. ~It keeps its real name hidden anyway,~ she muses. ~I thought "Veil of Mists" might suit, for the ambiguity in man's tongue might suit Fog's fancy, but I have heard no other suggestions.~ Anne interjects, "The latest suggestions are Hidden Path and Hidden Walk." Sepdet's eyes tighten a fraction at the names, but she nods and looks around at the others. Robert prompts the Strider, "Reactions?" Sepdet ducks her eyes again. ~They ring true...though they remind me of another Hidden caern. I just keep wishing we could think of fit words to recall the way the new place was forged, through desperation, battle, rite and splitting earth. That night should not be forgotten.~ Alexander finally speaks up, "The Wheel Renewed had nothing to do with what happened the night it was opened, though that night wasn't forgotten either." Anne agrees, tone very dry, "Without a name of fifty words or more, I doubt we could. Is it not the job of a specific auspice to remember such momentous events?" Shadow-of-Blood shifts very slightly, with a glance at the Glass Walker and a flick of an ear showing his agreement with her. Sepdet mutters, ~Sundered Stone,~ testing one more idea before nodding to Anne.~I don't know. As you say, Rhya, words are best left to the Galliards. Anyway the name of Hidden Path will help remind all to the newest cub of our veil of secrecy, which is well.~ Anne resumes working on her tangled hair. "I like Hidden Path better than Walk, because to me, a path does _not_ necessarily end. And we cannot, in any case, see this one. Walk means something too obscure for me, in context. I'm not married," a brief smile crosses her lips, "to the one over the other, though." JJ Malone's gaze seems to rest on Shadow-of-Blood, then suddenly smirks in bemusement, relaxing somewhat against her tree. Sepdet still seems faintly disconcerted by the name, but turns her gaze towards Brian and Robert without further comment. Brian draws a breath, and looks over at Robert. "Your call, I should think." Quiet seems satisfied, even if she has thrown her opinion in with 'Hidden Walk.' Robert nods, thinking out loud. "A small handful for Hidden Path, and a small handful for Hidden Walk. Unlike my normal modus operandi, I'd prefer to have a statement saying, 'it's this,' rather than having the entire sept vote, which would be nothing short of cacophony. The Caern of the Hidden Walk it is." Anne nods acceptingly, one corner of her mouth moving downwards slightly. "I wanted to bring up one other thing before we go," she says, glancing around to the others. Alexander turns his attention to Anne. Anne fiddles with the lock of hair she's been untangling. "Some moons ago, we made a decision, with which I was unhappy," she says; her expression is a mix of discomfort and determination. "I am not happy with what I want to suggest, either, but our situation has changed so drastically that I think it has to be brought up. Namely, Crystal's chiminage. Things have changed; in several months, she has done a lot of work to help us, including her help in all of the Rites and such as needed for the restoration of the caern. I want her gone; don't think I don't. But I also wonder if, with our very changed situation and the work she's done, the previous chiminage requirements might be better off waived." The downward turn to her mouth lends strength to her statement of disliking what she's saying, even as she makes her way through the words. Alexander looks around before commenting, "She's already completed my part. As far as I'm concerned, she can stay." Sepdet frowns in faint puzzlement, studying the other's reactions to the mentioned Garou as much as to the question. Quiet says she has not finished what I asked her to do, but I have no objection. Anne turns her gaze from the other two elders of the chiminage-required tribes to Brian and Robert. Robert shrugs. "Fine by me," he concedes. Brian folds his arms across his chest wearily rather than confrontationally. "I've been mulling that over for the past while," he says. "I'm not convinced anymore that we did the right thing back when. I mean, holding them to different standards of chiminage than we hold anyone and everyone else." He pauses, glances down at his feet, and shrugs. "She's done more than enough to convince me that she should be permitted to join the sept. I doubt I'd be particularly happy with her as a Warder, but I'd rather cross that bridge if and when we come to it." Anne's expression changes to sardonic amusement at Brian's first few sentences, but she stays quiet about whatever the source of that amusement is. Instead, she asks when he's done, "I'll tell her, then, when I see her, or would you rather?" "Be my guest," Brian answers Anne. JJ Malone's hand twitches towards her pocket, and half pulls out a packet of cigarettes before she remembers herself and hurriedly thrusts them back in. "Sure, fine. Who is this again?" she asks, although it's so quietly and sarcastically, and said to herself, that she can't seriously be asking it aloud. Anne nods, and spreads both hands out again, palms down. "Thank you. As I said, I don't _want_ her to stay, but in honor..." She shrugs, and adds, "That's all I wanted to ask. Or say." Shadow-of-Blood wonders if that will be all? Robert looks around at the gathered group. "Any other items that need to be brought up?" Anne shakes her head slightly. Alexander shakes his head. Sepdet shakes her head in a quick negative, still mulling over the simple words. Brian shakes his head as well. "Not from me," he says. Quiet seems content. Robert nods. "Thank you all, then, and have a good evening." Anne nods quickly, murmurs a farewell, and slips back into the woods. ---- Recall end ----